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Fox News Isn't Biased. They Swear They Aren't

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Fox News has fired a 24-year-old production assistant for revealing her political preferences during a red carpet event. Jennifer Locke was assisting a Fox camera crew at the Time 100 Gala, when Republican presidential candidate John McCain walked by. Locke apparently said to McCain, "I voted for you in the primary. You're going to win."

Interestingly enough, McCain turned back and said to Locke, "You're not supposed to reveal that."

The entire encounter was captured on tape, and later a Fox News "insider" said Locke's comments to McCain were "journalistically unacceptable." Even after working with Fox for a few years, Locke was immediately terminated due to what happened at the red carpet shindig.

It's understandable that journalists are not allowed to disclose their political views in public, because they want to avoid any accusation of biased media coverage. But was this Fox's attempt to recover from rumors regarding their right-wing bias in news coverage? Because if that's the case, It didn't work.

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{"commentId":1788218,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}

Firing Locke violated her first amendment right more than anything. If she's not a reporter, it should be safe for her to share her political views publicly all she wants. But in retrospect, she's probably better off not working for Fox News anyway.

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  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Sun May 11, 2008 9:34 AM EDT
{"commentId":1788591,"authorDomain":"prompt"}

Firing Locke violated her first amendment right more than anything.

No, it was not a violation of her first amendment right. More than anything it was Fox News doing the proper thing, and it seems they can't do it without getting harassed.

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  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Sun May 11, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":1788982,"authorDomain":"Jivatmanx"}

You have a first amendment right to say what you want. You don't have a right to a newspaper column, T.V. show, radio show, ect.

Remember people saying that Don Imus's rights were being violated, when his show was canceled? I got a hell of a kick out of that. Maybe I would been more sympathetic if the man actually held any political opinions other than crude, unfunny attacks.

Oh well. That's what people like these days, I guess. Which is why Ron Paul was so refreshing.

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  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Sun May 11, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789507,"authorDomain":"wood-s"}

prompt: I would amend your statement to read "Fox News doing the proper thing for the first and probably last time in their existence." Do they really think this is going to fool anyone, just because they penalized someone for going too far even for their very lax standards?

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  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Sun May 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789528,"authorDomain":"cajun"}

I'm curious as to what bias this incident is supposed to be evidence of.

Fox News, who is often accused of being too politically conservative, fires a reporter who supported a Republican candidate.

What am I missing?

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  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Sun May 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789551,"authorDomain":"wood-s"}

Cajun: Because she spilled the beans. Like everybody didn't already know Fox had an agenda? But their staff isn't supposed to admit it in so many words.

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  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Sun May 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789644,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Thanks for the Fox-bash seed Dennis. I believe that's like a once a week requirement on Newsvine is it not? ;>0 So now we're covered for the week ahead.

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  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Sun May 11, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789645,"authorDomain":"prompt"}

prompt: I would amend your statement to read "Fox News doing the proper thing for the first and probably last time in their existence." Do they really think this is going to fool anyone, just because they penalized someone for going too far even for their very lax standards?

I don't think Fox News is really trying to fool anyone into thinking that they are unbiased. However, if they had not fired this reporter, they would be plainly in violation of certain aspects of professional journalism. Whether they truly care about the "moral guidelines" of journalism is irrelevant - they did the right thing here.

As to saying it is the only right thing they've ever done, well I wouldn't go that far.

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  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Sun May 11, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1788378,"authorDomain":"train"}

Employer can fire someone based on his/her political affiliations. It doesn't change the fact that this is Fox absurdity at its worst.

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  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Sun May 11, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
{"commentId":1788578,"authorDomain":"brendamayer"}

I don't know what Fox's ulterior motive was, if any, but it seems to me that the firing was an appropriate action for highly unprofessional conduct. I'm no McCain fan, but good for him for calling her on it.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Sun May 11, 2008 12:38 PM EDT
{"commentId":1788954,"authorDomain":"danish"}

Yep. I agree. If you are a political reporter, you can't make public statements about your vote. It is customary, at least where I'm from, that journalists are independents, and do not acquire membership of a party. A paper or a magazine can demand that you do not disclose political preferences, if you are on the employees list (I have the luxury of not doing any political reporting, so I can state my opinion in public).

McCain responded correctly, and it speaks in his favour that he did so instantly. Unless, of course, it is all a set-up.

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  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Sun May 11, 2008 3:34 PM EDT
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I'm not trying to put McCain down, but the first thing I thought was that it was odd for him to say anything at all. I just can't imagine a scenario where a candidate would scold someone for saying they'd vote for them under any circumstances, but especially since she was just helping the cameraman and not preparing to interview him or anything. I'd think he'd have given her a wink and thumbs up or something and kept on getting up. Maybe he's paranoid and thought he was somehow being tested? (shrug)

I clicked to read the article but there's no article there.

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  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Mon May 12, 2008 1:02 AM EDT
{"commentId":1790301,"authorDomain":"danish"}

@ Cheryl Johnson,

Yea, that is why I thought it might be an elaborate PR stunt. It's just too correct to be true, somehow. I know it sounds paranoid, but in this day and age... but I guess your explanation is, again, more realistic. He thought he was being tested and responded in a stingy manner. Fox, paradoxically, had to acknowledge the blunder and respond. Occam's Razor.

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  • 2 votes
#3.3 - Mon May 12, 2008 3:54 AM EDT
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{"commentId":1788586,"authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}

I've watched Bill O'Reilly on a few occasions, mostly to evaluate just how biased he was. Every time the 'no spin zone' logo came up, I got a laugh.

I don't believe there is anything wrong with being a conservative necessarily, I don't think we'd ultimately be better off if we only had one shade of the political spectrum out there. But anybody who can fool themselves into thinking that his show is totally unbiased probably shouldn't be allowed to cross the street alone. It wouldn't be safe.

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  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Sun May 11, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
{"commentId":1788617,"authorDomain":"DanLS"}

Even after working with Fox for a few years, Locke was immediately terminated due to what happened at the red carpet shindig.

An employee working there for a "few years" who was still a PA? They were just looking for an excuse to fire this girl.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Sun May 11, 2008 12:48 PM EDT
{"commentId":1788777,"authorDomain":"sifeliz"}

but what about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSAOQuLxSdY

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  • 2 votes
Reply#6 - Sun May 11, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
{"commentId":1788856,"authorDomain":"SirThinkswaytomuch"}

I can has sum textz plz?

(Its probably a fault on my end...)

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  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Sun May 11, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789108,"authorDomain":"mimacarol"}

Of course, FOX is slanted to the right. There's no doubt about it. But, I'm tired of listening to the complaining about it. If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's as simple as that.

Why doesn't anyone complain about MSNBC? Are we going to claim that Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews are unbiased?

FOX and MSNBC are opposite sides of the same coin. Watch the one you agree with and quit tring to stifle the one you don't agree with. Is that so hard?

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  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Sun May 11, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789668,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

You mean Chris "A Thrill Ran Up My Leg" Matthews and Keith "I Hate Hillary" Olbermann? Shirley you jest.

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  • 5 votes
#8.1 - Sun May 11, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":1789764,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

If you don't like it, don't watch it.

Exactly. Most of us choose our news sources as a way to validate our personal beliefs. Those of us who lean left will choose left-leaning sources. Those of us who lean right will choose right-leaning sources. Most of us don't want our beliefs challenged by another point of view.

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  • 3 votes
#8.2 - Sun May 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1789401,"authorDomain":"tacitus13"}

Fox News has fired a 24-year-old production assistant for revealing her political preferences during a red carpet event.

Just how pivotal was this girl's role? Was she an assistant director or someone who got coffee for the crew?

A production assistant, also known as a PA, is a job title used in filmmaking and television for a person responsible for various aspects of a production. The jobs of a PA vary greatly.

Some production assistants play a pivotal role in production (more often in television), performing tasks such as editing, writing, graphics coordinator, and assistant director.

Other production assistants may be relegated to odd jobs and various administrative tasks (more often in filmmaking), such as stopping traffic, acting as couriers, getting items from craft service,filing, photocopying, typing/Word processing, taking/making telephone calls and organising the diary for the day. Production assistants on films are often attached to individual actors or filmmakers.

Production Assistant

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    Reply#9 - Sun May 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1789465,"authorDomain":"Rixar13"}

    If they swear to God, isn't that that a lie? They will go to purgatory of Hell? Are they hypocrites? hmmmmm They got caught on tape....

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#10 - Sun May 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1789527,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

    This reminds me: noted New York Times journalist Michael Gordon, who covers Iraq, implicitly gave his support for the surge when he said

    I think it's worth...one last effort for sure to try to get this right, because my personal view is we've never really tried to win.

    Nothing happened to him. I think this is just Fox being silly. All of their evening shows are dominated by conservatives and that viewpoint is gonna keep on staying that way. I actually don't think this lady should be fired - she said she think he's going to win, not that she wants him to win and her choosing him in the primaries does not necessarily reflect her ultimate preference either; she could think he's the best of a bad bunch.

    Ironically, if she would have urged him to stay in Iraq indefinitely, she probably wouldn't have been punished. Its all decorum.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#11 - Sun May 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1789673,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

    Reporters appear on tv news shows all the time and offer their opinions or haven't you watched Meet The Press, Fox News Sunday or a host of others lately? What one cannot due is offer an explicit endorsement of a particular candidate which this young woman did.

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    #11.1 - Sun May 11, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1791523,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

    Right, but I just noted this reality. My point was that it doesn't make any sense. So, if Politician X supports a particular policy and Politician Y doesn't, you, as a reporter, can endorse and keep reporting on said policy but if you endorse Politician X, you are judged to be unable to do your job. What's the difference?

    As for the shows you listed... to take an example, George Will comments on policy all time. That's his whole point. But he isn't allowed to report on policy. Mr. Gordon is.

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      #11.2 - Mon May 12, 2008 1:45 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1793318,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

      Will writes on policy all the time but he's a columnist and not a reporter. The oleaginous Dana Milbank, who's kind of a hybrid, editorializes on Olbermann's chorus of yesmen nearly every night as do a host of others. The official policy at the New York Times is that its reporters aren't supposed to have anything good to say about any aspect of the US's presence in Iraq (and my tongue is only slightly in cheek here). This is what got Gordon and the great John Burns in trouble when they appeared on Russert's show and also on Charlie Rose.

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      • 1 vote
      #11.3 - Mon May 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1798715,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

      I honestly don't know how to classify Milbank and most days I wonder if there's a point to him at all. I realize you probably hope for more upbeat coverage of Iraq, but I think its silly to argue that the Times hasn't provided that - John Burns and Gordon both have A LOT of good things to say about our military presence there and they pretty much are the figures responsible for covering the war for the Times. Dexter Filkins too has a lot of good to say, but I really admire the guy (as does Laura Ingraham, apparently!) and I think it's unfair to place him in the same category.

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      • 1 vote
      #11.4 - Wed May 14, 2008 9:42 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":1789691,"authorDomain":"kimmy123"}

      I just clicked on the "Read Article" and got everything but the article.
      Fox censorship?

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        Reply#12 - Sun May 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1789997,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

        The term "bias" does not apply when the determinant of reporting is not reality but what clients want to hear. You can only either touch the predetermined mindset of your viewers or you don't. Fox does, which makes all its market success.

        Why bother viewers with reality anyhow if they zap to "Top Gun" if reality doesn't fit?

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        • 2 votes
        Reply#13 - Sun May 11, 2008 11:48 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1790943,"authorDomain":"ScarlerTermite"}

        Objective broadcast journalism died the day corporations began buying up networks and made the decision that the news departments had to make a profit. Fox News is just an extreme example of that. All television news with the possible exception of PBS is slanted one way or the other. To seek an honest, objective reporter/commentator is a noble but futile exercise.

        The only way to combat this is to have places like Newsvine where (mostly) rational discussion can take place and by ordinary people taking the time to read and learn about their world and make their own decisions. Unfortunately, I am afraid that pigs will fly and monkeys will leap from my butt when that happens.

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        • 1 vote
        Reply#14 - Mon May 12, 2008 10:51 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1790981,"authorDomain":"danish"}

        Objective broadcast journalism died the day corporations began buying up networks and made the decision that the news departments had to make a profit.

        Good quotation.

        Unfortunately, I am afraid that pigs will fly and monkeys will leap from my butt when that happens.

        I'll be on the first row when it happens, then.

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        • 2 votes
        #14.1 - Mon May 12, 2008 11:00 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1793170,"authorDomain":"SirKnightsLady"}

        There never really has been objective journalism. We just like to think that there was.

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        • 1 vote
        #14.2 - Mon May 12, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1793329,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

        Quite correct. Every reporter and editor brings his/her biases to their job. It's simply impossible not to. I have no problem with this. In Europe and the UK everyone knows where the various papers are coming from with respect to an ideological slant. Only in the US is the fiction maintained that there is such a thing as unbiased reporting.

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        • 2 votes
        #14.3 - Mon May 12, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1794971,"authorDomain":"danish"}

        In Europe and the UK everyone knows where the various papers are coming from with respect to an ideological slant.

        True.

        Every reporter and editor brings his/her biases to their job. It's simply impossible not to.

        Among us journalists in Europe we have a technical term to describe this argument: Bad excuse.

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        #14.4 - Tue May 13, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":1794461,"authorDomain":"SirKnightsLady"}

        Americans don't know the real history of journalism in their own country. If they did, they would agree with you, Bill.

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        • 1 vote
        Reply#15 - Tue May 13, 2008 8:51 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1794649,"authorDomain":"ScarlerTermite"}

        Please allow some of us to wallow in our idealism. With all the deceit in our world it's nice to hope for the small light of truth to appear.

        I do know alot of the history of journalism in my country and I know that it hasn't all been Ed Murrow and Ernie Pyle. I also know that objectivity is rarely attained but it shouldn't be gleefully abandoned for the sake of greenbacks, opportunities for toadying, and houses in the Hamptons.

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        #15.1 - Tue May 13, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
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