'Get off my bus, I need to pray' story made up.

Good seed, Dennis. Just out of curiousity: what does the new phrase (turkiye ( by your name mean?

I saw that, and that's what got me thinking that very very few of them will.
Most likely, most will just let the subject drop, and a few of the real fanatics will just keep going as if they hadn't heard about it being a hoax.

I was shocked at the Italy story. I saw a large South Asian presence in Milan when I visited in '03 and they seemed established; they had their own shops, stalls and tobacco stands, and they spoke Italian. I saw many Africans too, and marvelled that truly all roads did lead to Rome. Italy seems one of the more tolerant places I ever visited. As we rode the trains from city to city, I saw trannies riding unmolested, Gypsy beggars who were turned away without shouting or rancor, all sorts of people. (But in Genova a young man sat by us on a train and he had neo-Nazi tattoos (the 3-pronged swastika) on his body. But he spoke French!)

I was saddened to read about the vandalism in both Italy and in France in the WWI cemetery. These societies can be tolerant in so many ways, yet they also harbor deep resentments and mistrust.

Yes, that's what the Bus company said happened. Did the passenger make up his experience? Did "The Sun" make up the driver's response?

Observing this from a distance I see a correlation between this seed and the following:Creating a European Indigenous People's Movement

Though the bus driver was presumably European in origin I wonder how much anti-Muslim propaganda is becoming a staple of European news. So much easier to hate the enemy who is different than you than the enemy within.

I don't know if it was made up by a passenger or by the Sun.

It seems neither does the author of the seed, pretty hypocritical.

Interesting, I've never seen a bus stop and swap passengers because it was late.

I've had it happen to me in SF on many occasions.

author of the seed

ajzzz seems to be making a strange link between a seed author, article or source for it. I am left baffled at the question.

ajzzz is saying sicne you don't know who is lying the original story must be true.. but he missed the part about the cctv footage.... I'm guessing the sun has cctv footage that proves their story?

It was still the Sun's job to check out the facts. Had they bothered to contact the bus company they would have learned the truth and not reported what they did.

Didn't they, and then quote a representative from the company in the article?

A spokesperson for bus company London United said: "We are aware of a reported incident involving our route 81.

"We are currently undertaking a full investigation into the matter."

Is this part of the article untrue?

Yesterday the driver, who said his name was Hrun, told The Sun: "I asked everyone to get off because I needed to pray. I was running late and had not had time.

"I pray five times a day as a Muslim — but I don't normally ask people to get off the bus to do it."

Muslims pray at pre-dawn, noon, afternoon, sunset and evening.

After a few minutes the driver calmly got up, opened the doors and asked everyone back on board.

ajzzz, give it up already. you're arguing some how the burnt Sun story is still true when it has proven to be false.

@Jdoyle #3.2, to bad you can't wager monetary bets on the vine for calling this one.

Most likely, most will just let the subject drop, and a few of the real fanatics will just keep going as if they hadn't heard about it being a hoax.

Any other predictions you want to share with us? :)

Apparently it is.

Because the bus company said so?

Because the bus company said so?

how about calling up The Sun if it's that important for you to know. Goodness, it's The Sun! Who else cares as much?

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Tedd's really taking this new role seriously!

Thanks friend. We just do not know how we survived without you for so....ooo long.

Even the tits on page three are fake

some donkeys they've had sometimes make you wonder if the body belongs to a she or a she-man. I'm not kidding!

Why are you so surprised that the story is fake?

I think his suprise is that something anti Islamic isn't true

Tedd's really taking this new role seriously!

I started working for the phone company as my first job Raat.....18 years of my life.....hard to forgot that part of things..

Why are you so surprised that the story is fake?

I've never bought the Sun in my life, but I don't think I've ever heard of them so blatently fabricating quotes from named authors. It's a serious charge, they can spin and have atrocious opinions, but this kind of thing would get them into trouble.

I used to be a regular bus rider at odd times, and I've had it happen to me a couple of times.

The Sun is the equivalent of National Enquirer as far as facts go..

Who cares what the driver does after the passengers leave the bus?

Muck rakers care
If they didn,t find the news they create it

Last April full [which was not even funny] was about a US muslem student who has attacked his christian peers and wounded them because they put pork meat in his pie stealthly.

Such news originate from Ignorance, or humour, or mallice?

Such news originate from Ignorance, or humour, or mallice?

The seeder of the hoax article did not show much humour. Very much doubt it was ignorance. So we are left to conclude it was malice. Pure and simple.

Exactly, Raat

whats bad is we cant remove them for a list of postible/debatible sites.. or at least auto append the satire tag to their stories.

That would be a nice feature if we had some way to filter out what we did not want to read like the "ignore" button, if so, the "Sun" would be on my list for Ignore, "Pravda" might be, but sometimes the articles are so bizarre they are actually pretty funny....

Most people I know do read The Sun purely for fun. And read in that light, it actually is quite funny. But when one considers that it is Britian's largest daily (by circulation) and is owned by News International, it leaves three very worrying questions:

1. Are the majority of British people so dumb that they would help push up sales of something as trashy and useless as The Sun?
2. Is News International exploiting its influence over readers to brainwash some people with ignorance?
3. Is popularity of The Sun in Britain a reflection of what constitutes media that so many prefer to consume?

Personally, I think it is a combination of all three factors. An unhappy consequence. I'm all for democracy and freedom of speech. But as far as the media is concerned, I have always felt it has a responsibility to uphold high standards. But how can anyone challenge what the Sun does (it runs pranks like this every now and then) if the ordinary punter still keeps on buying the trash?

Oh I have to admit, when I am bored. The Sun is great to look at. It reminds me of Saturday Night Live, just don't believe too much of what they say. The hard part is that it sounds pretty real the way that they do most of it, so its hard to tell.

Hey if people buy it, does it matter ? People put out tons of money for trashy stuff like National Enquirer, TV Guide or the 18,000 versions of Better Housekeeping Magazines and Cosmo....

Hey if people buy it, does it matter ?

Nothing wrong in people buying it. Reading it. Talking about it. They can do whatever takes their fancy with a copy of the Sun.

Problem is when a hoax article is used to incite and inflame racism, xenophobia and bigotry. Now that's a totally different ball game. And that's where the media responsibility that I talk about applies.

I agree. And that is the big problem I feel for alot of people in the states. Its a UK paper, we don't see it everyday so we have no knowledge of it except on the few times it gets used as a quote or reference.

The trashy US papers like that, we see all the time and ignore them. The Sun, some people know what it is, many don't.

I feel the Media needs to take far more responsibility in their publications. I feel they are getting away with way too much as it is.

I would say that it sells and kills

I completely agree with you on that point.

because muslem defamation was one of the reasons of why the international mainstream didn,t question the brual sanction and the illegal war at Iraq

Again, I agree. It is a sad truth, but that is what has been happening.

Some kind of media is a big monster subsisting at blood and flesh.

But to be fair , the same kind of media is existing in some thiocratic states on the other side,, and it,s widening the chasm btween the east and west by creating a vile image for all people in the west and posing them as muslem haters who want to genocide them

I won,t wonder if every terrorist is in fact a victim of his media and beneficiary cleriks ,,
those who made young youths in some countries believe that they will be a martyrs by defending their people against western killers and haters.

Lies would get big coverage , then the truth gets few lines in a little corner after everybody enjoyed mocking and demeaning the 'Other'